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This Land

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The first narrative podcast from the  Pod Save America  creators,  This Land  goes inside the Supreme Court ( ideal for audio , given its no-cameras policy) to untangle a potentially ground-shifting case. An unresolved legal battle about a murder in Oklahoma led to an appeal over jurisdiction and turned into a debate about territory; the decision could confer massive parts of eastern Oklahoma to the Muscogee (Creek) Nation because of a 19th-century land treaty. The host Rebecca Nagle uses this matter to lay out the larger context of how the U.S. violates the sovereignty of native peoples. The story is personal for Nagle, a member of the Cherokee Nation who advocates for all tribes. She draws a straight line from  President Andrew Jackson  to President Trump to the oil and gas companies that today see Oklahoma as a pipeline for profits. Nagle brings us the heroes, too: the Cherokee leader John Ridge, who had to make a Sophie’s choice during negotiations, and the public defender Lisa McCalmont, who toiled to ensure this case saw the light of day.

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The first narrative podcast from the Pod Save America creators, This Land goes inside the Supreme Court (ideal for audio, given its no-cameras policy) to untangle a potentially ground-shifting case. An unresolved legal battle about a murder in Oklahoma led to an appeal over jurisdiction and turned into a debate about territory; the decision could confer massive parts of eastern Oklahoma to the Muscogee (Creek) Nation because of a 19th-century land treaty. The host Rebecca Nagle uses this matter to lay out the larger context of how the U.S. violates the sovereignty of native peoples. The story is personal for Nagle, a member of the Cherokee Nation who advocates for all tribes. She draws a straight line from President Andrew Jackson to President Trump to the oil and gas companies that today see Oklahoma as a pipeline for profits. Nagle brings us the heroes, too: the Cherokee leader John Ridge, who had to make a Sophie’s choice during negotiations, and the public defender Lisa McCalmont, who toiled to ensure this case saw the light of day.

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